OT: "Love & Mercy", Beach Boys, Good Vibrations

Posted: 8/2/2015 7:55:48 PM
ThereminCat

Joined: 7/13/2015

Has anyone seen "Love & Mercy" yet? It looks like an amazing movie about Brian Wilson's life and hardships, and how this influenced the making of their songs especially "God Only Knows"! :)

I did find the version of "Good Vibrations" that has Mike Love on a Moog ribbon controller, rather than Paul Tanner playing the Electro-Theremin. Bob Moog discusses the creation of that custom ribbon controller in the deleted scenes of the Moog Documentary, basically because the Beach Boys were guitarists and unfamiliar with playing an actual theremin :3 

That version is, in my opinion, the most beautiful version of the song :)

And speaking of "God Only Knows", my favorite version of that song was made around the same time!

I think the late 60s was their greatest time, with pure analog sound and excellent harmony :)

UPDATE: After watching more trailers, I now have a better explanation - the 1960s was Brian Wilson's period of great creativity and energy. Later in his life he fell into mental illness, this is what the movie is about. Quite interesting, and one of the movie ads is true - one will never think of the Beach Boys the same way after seeing this touching movie :)

Posted: 8/3/2015 1:01:15 PM
Luna

From: Cleveland, Ohio

Joined: 12/21/2014

I saw it with my mom -- we enjoyed it, I especially liked Paul Dano's performance.  There's maybe 5 seconds of Tannerin in it, if that. 

Posted: 8/3/2015 2:32:44 PM
ThereminCat

Joined: 7/13/2015

Awesome! :D Do you know where I can get the soundtrack? Aww :( There was more Tannerin than that in the Moog documentary! At least (I think) it shows the making of "Good Vibrations"? PM me if you don't want to post a spoiler, but the song he is struggling to find lyrics to (preview below) is "Good Vibrations", right? :D

I recognized the chords :)

Cool, Brian Wilson does play a real theremin at 4:05 :)

Posted: 8/3/2015 5:17:44 PM
ThereminCat

Joined: 7/13/2015

Wow! Brian Wilson wrote the original song "Love and Mercy" when he returned to recording in the late '80s, after his struggle with mental illness. It's beautiful and now I know more about the story behind it :,)

EDIT: Old video replaced with a legitimate YouTube copy from the #BrianWilson channel rather than a third party :) Lyrics are now sourced legally from Google Play here :)

Posted: 8/3/2015 10:46:33 PM
rkram53

From: Northern NJ, USA

Joined: 7/29/2014

And of course those lyrics are copyrighted and posting them without permission is copyright infringement. 

You really don't seem to understand copyright at all.

Posted: 8/3/2015 11:28:10 PM
ThereminCat

Joined: 7/13/2015

Oh, sorry. Let me delete them. :3

Posted: 8/3/2015 11:38:17 PM
ThereminCat

Joined: 7/13/2015

This is from Brian Wilson's channel, it's how "Good Vibrations was made! :) 

Posted: 8/4/2015 4:58:57 PM
rkram53

From: Northern NJ, USA

Joined: 7/29/2014

I'm not trying to single anyone out here. I just see so much of this going on here, there and everywhere (by the way song titles themselves are not generally copyrightable - as many songs have the same title). So let's remember this:

1. If you post original material on YouTube, under the standard YouTube license anyone can repost/embed links to it. But they can not download and reuse it in any way (though many do). YouTube only takes over certain rights to material used on YouTube. There's a lot of fine print there about what rights you give up on YouTube - but you still retain copyright.

2. You can not repost/embed links to things that have been illegally uploaded to YouTube. Of course that's the huge problem. It's hard to know if that material was legally posted and YouTube is totally irresponsible in trying to vet things. It's easier for them to just wait for a lawsuit and let their mega-lawyers deal with it. Though if you try and post an original copyrighted recording, that will likely be discovered - and they may or may not do something about it.

3. But copying .mp3 files or performances to your computer and then reposting it or copying lyrics and reposting or making your own versions of copyrighted works without permission and posting is always going to be questionable.

Here's a good example of the haze. There's a performance of Clara Rockmore of the Villa-Lobos Bachiana Brasileira no 5 you can find someone has posted on YouTube obviously from one of here recordings. TW even recently posted a different performance of it by Thorwald Jørgensen. This piece is copyrighted. So in the first case, whoever posted it likely violated the copyright of both Villa-lobos estate for original copyright and Clara Rockmore Estate for performance copyright (or whoever owns the copyrights). Now even if Jørgensen owns his performance of the piece, did he get permission of the Villa-Lobos estate to post it on YouTube? Maybe. If not, he likely violated copyright as did TW by reposting it. It's a very complicated subject, and I always try to err on the part of caution to respect the original copyright.

 

Posted: 8/4/2015 6:17:50 PM
ThereminCat

Joined: 7/13/2015

Thanks for the information! I guess I was right to remove the lyrics and replace the video that had been uploaded illegally with a proper video from Brian Wilson's own channel. It's remastered and sounds better too :)

Posted: 8/4/2015 7:12:57 PM
oldtemecula

From: 60 Miles North of San Diego, CA

Joined: 10/1/2014

 

  

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