Emotional while playing...

Posted: 11/14/2012 8:26:45 AM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

"Coooooooo. Trillllllll. SCREEEEEEEEEEECH!!!" - w0ttm

Yes - there are some birds which spoil the concert..

Magpies are the ones I hate most - They have no interest in music, and when a group of them fly in looking for breakfast, the chorus stops. Crows are another which spoil the show instantly.

"Perhaps, he's saying that music itself, which is (usually) some form of organized sound, has no power of it's own to emote.  It is our perception of and intellectual and emotional reaction to the sound which gives it magical powers." - Jeff

Yeah, Im sure that he meant something like that..

But IMO its a pointless thing to say - its like saying that speech has "essentially powerless to express anything at all" or that no-one can hurt you by what they say, that it is your reaction to what they say which hurts.. All true at face value - the words have no "power", the music has no "power" .......

The above is a good example of the kind of stupid things people who analyse too deeply often say - I do it all the time - Yeah, the analysis is correct at one level, but oh so pointless and wrong on every other level.

Here is one of the things I think music does, which has "power"..

If I have an emotion (or usually a collection of emotions - an emotional "state")  which is difficult to describe, I have been able to create a piece of music which allows me to "encapsulate" that state - The act of doing this often makes this "state" more managable.

Now - If I play this to someone, I often get the IMPRESSION that they have a better understanding of my "state" - and often appear to have an "empathic" connection to it.

I can play music I composed years ago, and instantly be transported back to the state I was in when I produced it - I dont do this often, because much of what I created was from states I have no wish to re-visit.. But some pieces were created when I was in a great "place" (the piece I play most at the moment was created a few months after an ex partner had left - I had got to the state of enjoying the peace and freedom).

And I play music created by others which (TO ME) seem to have been created in an emotional state I can relate to, and which convey emotions I want to be reminded of.

I cannot know whether the emotional "triggers" I get from the creations of others are the same states that the creator had, or that the creator "intended" - All I can know is the effect of the music on me. I do know that the majority of music I have created has come from my emotional "drivers", and that the emotions I feel when I play these are the same, albeit "modified" by my present state.

I cannot know if the emotional response others have to any piece of music is the same response I get.

 

Fred.

 

Posted: 11/14/2012 11:28:30 AM
coalport

From: Canada

Joined: 8/1/2008

MUSIC THERAPY has been used for the treatment of clinical depression and bipolar disorder from the very earliest times....Imagine! Before thorazine and shock treatments there was MUSIC!

 

"For naught can cheer the heart sae weel, 

As can a cany Highland reel."  Robert Fergusson (1637 - 1714)

Posted: 11/14/2012 12:34:32 PM
Amethyste

From: In between the Pitch and Volume hand ~ New England

Joined: 12/17/2010

THereis also music out there that will drive you insane. Like Radios: There are more than 5 songs in existence right?

Posted: 11/14/2012 1:14:30 PM
RoyP

From: Scotland

Joined: 9/27/2012

"For naught can cheer the heart sae weel, 

As can a cany Highland reel."  Robert Fergusson (1637 - 1714) - coalport


Taken from the poem 'The Daft Days' by Robert Fergusson (1750-1774)

'As can a canty Highland reel'


It's the pedantic Scot in me what makes me do it...


Edit-For all that, a good going Highland reel is indeed a fine thing!

Posted: 11/15/2012 12:17:10 AM
coalport

From: Canada

Joined: 8/1/2008

RoyP wrote: Taken from the poem 'The Daft Days' by Robert Fergusson (1750-1774)

It's the pedantic Scot in me what makes me do it...

 

And damn good thing it is too! Where did I get those dates (above)? The wee lad only lived to the age of 24. 

Posted: 11/15/2012 12:51:08 PM
RoyP

From: Scotland

Joined: 9/27/2012

Aye, he never really had a long life but it appears he liked to party...don't we all!

http://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poetry/poets/robert-fergusson

A statue dedicated to him is outside the Canongate Kirk on Edinburgh's Royal Mile or High Street.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=55.951501,-3.178278&spn=0.000003,0.00284&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=55.951501,-3.179301&panoid=0YVhCkBJE7-ulu4R38ieUg&cbp=12,335.18,,0,0

 

 

Posted: 7/3/2013 12:35:21 PM
adlena

Joined: 7/3/2013

nice forum

Posted: 7/3/2013 9:03:45 PM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

Aye, that it is!

Welcome to TW, adlena.

The order of the most recent postings has been completely screwed up by removal of spam postings it seems - seems like a "tomsoong" whose membership has been withdrawn dragged up about 20 old threads by posting spam into them... so it may be worth checking if the last post was by "tomsoong" as if it was, the thread is likely to be old. 

This thread is fairly ancient (more than 6 months since last post prior to yours) ... But sometimes is nice to have good threads pop up again..... however there are some threads I hope will never resurface...

Fred.

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