Drum amp for a theremin?

Posted: 6/17/2014 8:51:13 AM
muunleit

From: germany

Joined: 6/11/2014

Hey,

there are a lot of topics about amps to use with a theremin and while I was searching for an amp, I saw the Kustom KDA 50.

I'm interested in what you think about using a drum amp like this with a theremin (?)

KDA50 Specifications can be found on Kustom KDA50 manual page 8.

Posted: 6/17/2014 11:13:26 AM
Thierry

From: Colmar, France

Joined: 12/31/2007

  • The 10k input impedance is somewhat low, most theremins work best with 50k.
  • The phrase "Actual response is tailored for accurate acoustic response for electronic drums" lets me think that the frequency response might not be appropriate for use with a theremin
  • The 50W output via a 10" speaker plus tweeter is the absolute overkill for practicing at home.

For use at home and in most venues (conference rooms, small churches, small concert halls), I found the Yamaha MSP-3 active studio monitor (27W) to give best results with the Burns B3, Moog Etherwave, and the tVox tour Theremins. But I don't play punk rock music... ;-)

Especially during the learning phase it is extremely important to have an amp or speaker which is rather "honest" than "effectful" so that the player may rather hear his potential faults and weaknesses instead of getting them covered!

Posted: 6/17/2014 1:33:06 PM
muunleit

From: germany

Joined: 6/11/2014

Thank you again Thierry :-)

Posted: 6/17/2014 5:04:13 PM
muunleit

From: germany

Joined: 6/11/2014

Do you connect to the Yamaha MSP-3 on Line 1 or Line 2? Because Line 1 has  –10 dB, but is connected with Cinch.

The Frequency Range starts at 65 Hz. Is that ok(?), because the theremin can produce lower frequencies. I don't know how often these low frequencies are used.

It seems to have 10k input impedance, too?

 

What do you think about the Yamaha HS7 or HS5? Both a little bit cheaper than the MSP3.

Posted: 6/17/2014 8:57:23 PM
Thierry

From: Colmar, France

Joined: 12/31/2007

I connect it via the 6.35mm phone jack on line 2 which is there as an asymmetric alternative to the XLR input. With the +4dB input sensitivity of line 2 I can be sure that I don't overdrive the input stage. Don't know why they write about an input impedance of 10k, there is a 47k resistor inside before the signal goes to a Hi-Z preamp stage.

The frequency range is ok. 65Hz as "starting frequency" at -10db does not mean that there will be nothing more below but that the sound pressure will be less for lower frequencies. 65Hz corresponds to the C string of a cello and most unmodified Etherwave theremins can still produce that in some way, but it's out of the beautifully playable range. The addition of the ESPE01 module to the Etherwave allows to go down below 20Hz and the MSP3 does still reproduce that, but not longer with the maximum sound pressure. As I said, I do not play punk rock music. But when I play the "Elephant" theme from Saint Saëns' "Carnaval des animaux" which is a solo for double bass and goes down to the lowest (E) string of the double bass (~40Hz), the MSP3 reproduces it in a nice way. And since I have the speaker on a stand at ear height behind me, I can feel the wind coming out of the bass reflex tubes in my neck.

I tried a Yamaha HS5 with a modified Etherwave and with the tVox tour theremin before deciding for the MSP3. The HS series is optimized for being loud, but not for being precise. It simply sounds harsh and metallic.

Please don't misunderstand me, I do not want to sound arrogant, but money shouldn't be an issue. I also have a very restricted budget for my hobbies since I have to bring up 4 daughters. But a German proverb says "Wer zu billig kauft, kauft zweimal" (Who buys too cheap, buys twice). Thus it is better to spend somewhat more on the first run.

Posted: 6/18/2014 10:53:36 AM
muunleit

From: germany

Joined: 6/11/2014

I think I'm going to send back the amp I bought in the first place next week.

Do you use the Yamaha BMS10A to put the box on a mic stand or something else?

Posted: 6/18/2014 4:36:45 PM
Thierry

From: Colmar, France

Joined: 12/31/2007

Yes, I use the Yamaha BMS10A mic stand adapter. Here is how my "setup" looks like:

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