Removing instruments fromk backing tracks - Crazy technical idea floating...

Posted: 8/22/2012 3:15:50 PM
Amethyste

From: In between the Pitch and Volume hand ~ New England

Joined: 12/17/2010

I think you all read me wrong. I said I wanted to drop it because IT IS a waste of my time and your time obviously. I am saving you all the waste of energy typing replies that will amount to nothing in all reality, but then I am told I am bitter and I take my angst on my friends. As you all did explaining your position, I tried to explain mine with what I felt, and it seems that whenever i share my vision with all of you, something that I say is not quite right... So i wanted to add to this thread that  I disagree; As all I am trying to do is to drop the subject entirely to focus my energy and positive thinking on things that will sunlight my days like friends, love, theremin and puppies. There is no reason to fight this endless battle, I just go with the flow because there is nothing I can do against it that will stop it.

It's a freight train gaining momentum, and I want to enjoy the ride before it falls into the abyss of nothingness...

Sorry if you read me and think I am taking my anger out on you all... I am feisty, but very gentle.

 

Posted: 8/22/2012 3:46:19 PM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

"I want to enjoy the ride before it falls into the abyss of nothingness..."

:-(

Hell, do I know THAT feeling!

Posted: 8/22/2012 4:18:27 PM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

I have a question for musicians who have copyrighted works which are being ripped off..

Do you have any agency who will act on your behalf to protect your rights? I am thinking here specifically of independent artists rather than those signed to a major label...

Is there a Musicians union or other agency (RIAA?) with a legal team who can / will act on your behalf?

Fred.

Posted: 8/22/2012 7:15:15 PM
dewster

From: Northern NJ, USA

Joined: 2/17/2012

"Do you have any agency who will act on your behalf to protect your rights? I am thinking here specifically of independent artists rather than those signed to a major label...

Is there a Musicians union or other agency (RIAA?) with a legal team who can / will act on your behalf?"  - FredM

I'm thinking it's kind of like independent inventors / engineers and patents.  Unless you have a large corporate legal team behind you you're pretty much SOL when it comes to people using your ideas without your say so.  But if you are sufficiently lawyered up, the company backing you up likely owns your patents!

Artists probably have it better with copyrights, as the things can last virtually forever, whereas patents run out fairly quickly.

Posted: 8/22/2012 10:05:35 PM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

From the U.K. Musicians Union website:

"Whenever members have disputes over unpaid fees, cancellations, injury compensation, intellectual property rights, or need help with contracts for recording, songwriting, touring or merchandising, the MU’s legal team is there to help — at no extra cost."

"Composers, songwriters and producers can call upon the MU to protect their copyright and property rights. The Union continually updates its rights’ service for musicians in recording and publishing, including online developments."

Just wondering if anyone has expierience with their MU (or other agency)with regard to copyright protection.

Seems to me that IF they free the musician from the legal costs and burden, and actually do implement a reasonable degree of protection (even the major labels are not able to stop all copyright theft of their artists material) then the MU fees of £177 per year (in the UK) is a bargain..

But the U.K.M.U. is the only agency I know of providing (or claiming to provide) this sort of service - presumably there are other MU's or agencies in other countries which do (or claim to do) similar actions?

I suppose I am trying to move away from discussion about the "rights" or "wrongs" and go in a direction which may be helpful and practical - Whatever we say here about copyright, whatever ideas we come up with or judgments we make, its not going to get us anywhere practical - IF any of the discussion here was to trickle into the collective conscious, it will still take decades before anything we come up with has ny possibility of having any effect... So perhaps it is more constructive to examine what agencies / mechanisms are in place now.

Fred.

"Artists probably have it better with copyrights, as the things can last virtually forever, whereas patents run out fairly quickly." - Dewster

Independent inventors have it FAR worse - Just to get a patent covering Europe and the USA will cost you >£100,000 up front (this is if you are a U.K. national - You need to pay fees for every state in the USA and must employ an American patent agent in each state! ) - This is before you can even safely show your invention to prospective clients.. Sure, technically you can be protected by a NDA - but when a client like Logitech or Microsoft claims they were working on the same idea before you showed them your invention, your NDA aint worth the toilet paper its written on.

When it comes to Monopoly money, I am a billionare! - Unfortunately, Monopoly money isnt recognised by the Ferengi - they want Latinum!

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