Enya's Watermark - By Amethyste on her new theremin!

Posted: 2/5/2013 2:15:04 PM
Amethyste

From: In between the Pitch and Volume hand ~ New England

Joined: 12/17/2010

I'd like to have her bank account for 1 day :) not Andrew Lloyd Webber for 1 day *yuck*

Posted: 2/5/2013 5:38:13 PM
dewster

From: Northern NJ, USA

Joined: 2/17/2012

Thanks for your observations and comparisons Amethyste!  Having no access to a variety of Theremins, I have to live vicariously through those who do.  Always interesting to hear what good players have to say about them.  [EDIT] I must say I was somewhat surprised by your comment about the subscope pitch not being very linear.  Does the EWPro pitch cramp up near the antenna?

Does anyone know if there are schematics of the EWPro floating around out in the ether?

Posted: 2/6/2013 1:11:43 AM
Jeff S

From: N.E. Ohio

Joined: 2/14/2005

No.  No schematics for the E-Pro, or the Ethervox for that matter.

Congratulations Amethyste on the E-Pro.  It would be interesting to hear your opinion and assessment of it when you have the time.

Posted: 2/6/2013 2:13:16 AM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

I have also never seen any schematics for the 91 series theremins.. so there is a lot of theremin technology which is not available for those interested.

One of the possible reasons that these schematics were not released MAY (and this is purely speculation on my part) be because Bob Moog made a statement about competitors "paraphonic" synthesisers (synthesisers which used "digital" [as in, square wave / logic level] sound generators followed by analogue processing) that they were just “warming up sterile digital signals” -

Having made such a statement, he then went and produced the E-Pro - the sound generator for which is based on heterodyning these "sterile digital signals”.. Also, although (AFAIK) entirely analogue, the 91 series and E-Vox do not employ heterodyning for their audio generation. (the E-Vox has both heterodyning and analogue VC sound generation)..  Something which many believe essential for a "real" theremin.

Fred.

Posted: 2/6/2013 4:05:46 AM
Amethyste

From: In between the Pitch and Volume hand ~ New England

Joined: 12/17/2010

No no no no.... I never said that my Subscope wasn't linear ~ the Wavefront is what I referred to. The Subscope is VERY good. The spacing increases through the lower octaves on the Subscope, but for some reason, the Subscope is VERY easy to play compared to the Wavefront. You have 7 octaves compressed in the playing spacial range. THat's a lot of notes haha. The Epro has 3 settings for registers, low, med and high. The spacing is prettry consistent throughout all the register settings in my opinion. I have not been really playing in the high or in the low registers too much, so my opinion may be juvenile. Seriously, I find the Subscope an AWESOME theremin. It really is amazing.

 

Thanks for your observations and comparisons Amethyste!  Having no access to a variety of Theremins, I have to live vicariously through those who do.  Always interesting to hear what good players have to say about them.  [EDIT] I must say I was somewhat surprised by your comment about the subscope pitch not being very linear.  Does the EWPro pitch cramp up near the antenna?

Does anyone know if there are schematics of the EWPro floating around out in the ether?

Posted: 2/6/2013 10:04:35 AM
FredM

From: Eastleigh, Hampshire, U.K. ................................... Fred Mundell. ................................... Electronics Engineer. (Primarily Analogue) .. CV Synths 1974-1980 .. Theremin developer 2007 to present .. soon to be Developing / Trading as WaveCrafter.com . ...................................

Joined: 12/7/2007

"Miss Brightman has a devoted and loyal worldwide following, but to me she has always seemed over-costumed, over made-up, over-produced, Las Vegasized, and basically insincere. She is neither particularly pretty, nor is she a particularly good singer, but she has been cleverly packaged to appear as if she is both." - Coalport

Ok, LOL ;-) .. I am (obviously) a complete ignoramus when it comes to celebs.. I just couldnt give a damn about any of them, what they wear, who they marry, all that stuff.. Oh, If I like what they do (the music they make or the stuff they discover etc) then I may admire them as individuals for that.. But IMO, those are probably people who have not "engineered" their way into celebrity... Oh, there are some exceptions - I loved Niel Diamond - got a lot of scorn in the early 70's when I was listening to Niel Diamond, The Carpenters, Jethro Tull, The Beatles, Return To Forever and Uriah Heep etc.. - No one knew which "side" I was on, LOL ;-)

So, other than being mutton dressed up as lamb, and not being a particularly great singer (well, I REALLY didnt like her voice) there wasnt anything dramatically wrong with her rendition of Watermark - She wasnt singing flat or anything like that. ?!

Thats a relief!  I listened to it again, and the bits i disliked most was where she shifted pitch - there was almost an "accent" or "slur" to it which I didnt like.

 

Posted: 2/6/2013 10:44:43 AM
RoyP

From: Scotland

Joined: 9/27/2012

Well I've listened to the SB rendition of Watermark and just find it dull!

'Ok, LOL ;-) .. I am (obviously) a complete ignoramus when it comes to celebs.. I just couldnt give a damn about any of them, what they wear, who they marry, all that stuff.. Oh, If I like what they do (the music they make or the stuff they discover etc) then I may admire them as individuals for that.. But IMO, those are probably people who have not "engineered" their way into celebrity... Oh, there are some exceptions - I loved Niel Diamond - got a lot of scorn in the early 70's when I was listening to Niel Diamond, The Carpenters, Jethro Tull, The Beatles, Return To Forever and Uriah Heep etc.. - No one knew which "side" I was on, LOL ;-)' - Fred

I can pretty much empathise with this. Back in the 70's I was seriously into Kraftwerk whilst most of my peers were into ripping guitar rock and the like. Now I've got the blues (musically speaking) and Kraftwerk are selling out in a retrospective over 8 days in the Tate (damn...I wish I lived in London! LOL!).
Not saying that my musical tastes are ahead of thier time, more like that most of the time musically I'm going up a one way street the wrong way! lol
NB-nowt wrong with Jethro Tull and Uriah Heep :-)

Posted: 2/6/2013 4:47:04 PM
dewster

From: Northern NJ, USA

Joined: 2/17/2012

"No no no no.... I never said that my Subscope wasn't linear ~ the Wavefront is what I referred to." - Amethyste

Oops, very sorry!  Obviously Subscope != Wavefront.  Chalk it up to my poor skimming skills and general brain rot...

I think the Hi / Mid / Low register switch is a +/- octave switching thing, and doesn't affect the relative response of the pitch field.  Compared to the Subscope, does note spacing on the EWPro seem wider or more cramped?

Posted: 2/6/2013 5:43:49 PM
mickkotter

From: gretna, louisiana

Joined: 8/10/2005

+1 for Amethyste.

 

 

 

Posted: 2/6/2013 7:05:34 PM
Amethyste

From: In between the Pitch and Volume hand ~ New England

Joined: 12/17/2010

"No no no no.... I never said that my Subscope wasn't linear ~ the Wavefront is what I referred to." - Amethyste

Oops, very sorry!  Obviously Subscope != Wavefront.  Chalk it up to my poor skimming skills and general brain rot...

I think the Hi / Mid / Low register switch is a +/- octave switching thing, and doesn't affect the relative response of the pitch field.  Compared to the Subscope, does note spacing on the EWPro seem wider or more cramped?

Dewster ~ It feels to me as it is wider.

 

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