Moog Theremini!

Volume loop latency in some presets.

I've noticed a bit of latency in the volume loop side when playing short staccatos with wide intervals. You can actually hear the glissando between notes, even though you're executing proper volume hand work. It's as if the volume loop looses it's sensitivity a bit when playing on presets where effects are involved, even when effect amount is turned down. The artifact is not as noticeable when playing on the Classic Theremin preset. (not to be confused with "theremin mode".) Also, when not playing multiple staccatos rapidly with jumps, the volume loop seems to work fine. Maybe too many things going on, too quickly for the processor to handle?

This is on rev 1.1.0 of the firmware.

Anyone else observe this?

Theremin mode DOES work. I'd seen some posts about this feature not working, and admittedly had a spot of bother with it, but now I know how this works.

After going into advanced setup, and turning theremin mode on, you will need to access the controls for adjusting pitch and volume by tapping the setup button once to see the pitch and volume text displayed with arrows pointing to the associated knobs, and again to switch back to the pitch / vol controls. It's layout is reversed from conventional configurations of real theremins. I was able to work the knobs to affect real theremin like control of the pitch, and volume sensitivity. The only hitch is the volume antenna control works more like the master volume. So, you'll still need to set the master volume for your loudest point, and then adjust the control for the volume knob. You also still have to calibrate for sistances. Not such a big deal, as I thought.

Just discovered how to mute the Theremini without draping an audio cable over the loop, or depending on auto mute. While in theremin mode, simply turn the knob for the volume antenna all the way to the left, and done! You're Theremini is now muted. So, chrisC, sorry, not Mr. Mute for Theremini. I know. ;)

It can be a bit tricky backing out of theremin mode, getting back to advanced setup, and turning this mode off.

@xtheremin8: I'll have to give your suggestion a try. It's not a totally unlivable thing, just something a person with extremely good hearing can pick up on.

Regarding your ipad hanging, and crashing, I'd suggest only changing one, or two presets at a time, and then save out, exit the app, and go back in. It also might help to close all running apps on the ipad by double clicking the home button, and flicking out all the apps you don't need running. If that fails, you might also shut down the ipad completely, restart, and try your session again. But only work with a couple of presets at a time. Also, be sure the USB cable you're using is a 2.0 type.

At any rate, the camera connection kit for the ipad will be here tomorrow, so I should be able to check out the ipad functionality at that time. I'll try knocking down the effects, and scan rate for the volume loop, too.

Thanks.

thomas, hope it helps. knock them down:-) as a musician, you'll hear it, if there is a improvement for your purposes. i'm curious. while you get your editor running, you might notice that it is only possible to move presets to and fro, just one by one. asfaics.

i don't want to spoil the party, but to me, the scan options are a bit overpopulated: once in the basic and then for each antenna  again. maybe i missed something there.{aaaah, can't put my finger on it, but that edi-thor could also need a update/rework, like more control over those few animoog waveforms..or a wavetable synth..since its more or less a synth somehow anyway.}

anyway, thanks for the hints, tried all that already. looks more like a walk to the repair departement, a job for the tech-guy with the equipment and software and the approved and confirmed screwdriver. we'll see. 

@xtheremin8: Sorry to hear all your efforts were no joy. Yeh, it well may be the editor needs an update. If so, it'll be a week before we see it hit the ios store, what with the approval process at Apple, and all.

Just wondering, what date was your Theremini manufactured? Should be on a label with the serial number. Just wondering if your unit was one of the early units. Mine was built last month. Could have something to do with your situation. At least it's still under warranty.

Once I get the adaptor in tomorrow, I'll start working with the editor, and let you know how it goes.

thomas, mine is labeled 6.2014. not sure gemini or cancer..see previous page of this thread.

yep it's tiresome. looks like it needs some debugging if not worse. i've been through that expierience before with a synth. so, i don't expect much help from this forum to get my issues solved.  that's up to moog. lol

have fun with the editor. i had a claptrapped fun time firstly and it's almost selfexplainingly easy to use.

the limits are not in the mind but in the machine. or in this case also on the endusers budget!

@xtheremin8: I have the ear of a couple of reps at Moog Music, and they've been fairly helpful in a timely manner. I'm forwarding your concerns to them, and their app, and firmware dev teams. I'll keep you in the loop. Rest assured, someone here will be able to help to some degree. Hang in there. :)

@xtheremin8: @all: Just got word back from Moog Music. They are aware of the issue, and are working on it. As soon as they're ready, they'll let us know.

thanx thomas for the forwarding. realy appreciate it. and keep us looped. :-)