Update: Humbucker music also has a low price on the Etherwave - just $1099 USD, though it appears this may just be their regular price.
Update 9/21: Turnkey has again dropped the price to just £349.99!! Thanks to Sinno for alerting us.
By Jason - 9/21/2005 -
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Turnkey, the European music instrument distributor, has listed the Etherwave Pro theremin at £419.99 (about $772 USD). The price is listed as valid for "strictly limited clearance stock" and stock is currently listed as "green".
Thanks to Charlie D for discovering this!
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Isn't that the original EPro price?
BTW, anybody has some experience with this company "Turnkey"? And anyone here who had bought any Pro here with this company (or any other instrument) can told us his/her experience?
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Jessica
Congratulations. Does it work well? Specially I am referring to the 'famous' volume antena response. ¿Do you feel comfortable with it?
@Oscar: I can't hear or feel any difference in controlling volume between the Etherwave Standard and the Etherwave Pro. But maybe I don't play well enough yet to experience some subtleties.
Most difficult for me now is getting used to the spacing between the high notes. It is wider on the Pro than on the Standard.
Thankfully I caught the £349.99 deal- but if you want to catch this truly once-in-a-lifetime deal then you'd better act REALLY fast. Turnkey are down to single figures. In other words, they have LESS THAN TEN E'PROS LEFT.
I don't have the money.
I do have a credit card.
It also seems strange to buy it and have it shipped across the ocean.
What should I do!!!
About the question I asked them "is the volume antenna response the new improved one, or the old one?", they answered "(...)and antenna will be the ones as specified on the website".
So, for me, somehow it is not answered the question about the "snappy" response of the old PROs by the moment by them. Just by our friend Jessica, and I want to believe her. Please Charlie, and everyone else, tell us your second opinion about this.
Yes , I am a little suspicious, but so much low price...! If I believe another Moog dealer's words about Pro's price, it is under its price for even them, and this makes me wonder some things...
If I buy it, am I getting the best PRO at its lowest price possible, or it just seems to be a bargain but it is just an slightly old model - so not perfect?
I know a guy from Spain that had to return months ago his PRO for adjustments to Moog. So, what if it is not perfect? will it be need to send it to USA? (probably the answer is the last one...but maybe sending it first to Turnkey at UK...)
Too much questions for me. I will ask them again, but if only I could solve my questions about this model directly with the guys who build it, like it happened to me 1 year ago with the kind Mr. Kees Enkelaar...
About the volume: if there is anything altered this will be on the circuit boards, not visible on the outside. Wilco and I opened my Pro, it has rev.B on the circuit board, so there must be something improved compared to the first Pro's.
With the Standard Etherwave you could raise your hand way above your ear, and still the volume would be increasing. With the Pro increasing stops somewhere at cheeckbone height. Wilco inquired with some friends at Moog, and it seems this smaller volume area was a design decision of Bob Moog. They didn't know why he decided on having it this way.
We (= Wilco + me) still don't experience any snappiness on my Pro, after almost a week of extensive playing.
For the price thing: It's the real deal. Turnkey bought a lot of Pro's but disappointedly no one would buy them. Turnkey didn't want to be stuck with all these boxes gathering dust in the storage space, hence the clearance sale. With prices dropping like this the Pro's now must fly of the shelves...
(Oscar, you could email Wilco to ask his opinion about my Pro)
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Jessica
Let's see if it was worth it.
The answer, next week...
Also- I cannot detect any ghost tone, although I sometimes get overtones if I play too loundly with the brightness and filter all the way up. This is only to be expected though (it happened with my old E'wave), and I'd never use such a horrible sounding timbre or such a high volume anyway.
The only weird thing I noticed is that if I tilt the POWER switch *slowly* from off to on, I sometimes hear the crackle of electricity arcing from the contacts. It's nothing to worry about though.
For £349.99 it was quite literally a steal. They are practically paying US to have them! If you want one then there isn't time to hesitate. They must have about five left now.
I doubt it. I think that Levnetters are a curmudgeonly lot who find fault in nearly everything you put in front of them.
All I can say, is that to me, that's not a defect in any way. Indeed, you will need some practice practice to get used to that curve, but in exchange, you will get a much better technique, and a more profficient instrument.
In fact, now i find much easyier to make 'those' fast passages, good staccatos, walking basses... Expressive playing, of course, needs work, but it's a whole complex phrasing language. It's needed, not to only seek the pitch, but to apply a correct envelope, and the same happens to the volume, where a correct envelope lead to a nice phrasing.
Of course, getting 'faster at all', it's not only a 'volume hand' thing, but also demands a huge improvements over the pitch hand too.
By the way, I completely agree about the headache-levnet. It's all about blah-blah-blah.
Regards.
Turnkey said there were still 5 left...
Further modifications might have been done... but actually your theremin is 'younger' that mine.
My Wavefront Classic's volume is so smooth compared to it, so it adds to the difficulty of switching theremins.
Even with what some consider flaws, I love my EPro and the problems are easy fixes. If it wasn't for the complainers and the blah blahing, those of us who want these things fixed would off had to spend extra money we don't have.
Thevolume response is a personel preference, and i understand not noticing the difference, But complaining about the other things, ghost sounds, (bad for recording) breaking stands, faulty power switches, and something new that might be developing are not just nuisance complaints they affect performance.
Andy
By the way, I agree the stand is HORRIBLE; it doesn't move a lot, but it does.
If you touch the loop, which is a very probable thing when doing walking basses, then the whole instrument will move until it stabilizes...
It has also happened to me when doing staccatos in higher octaves; and it's horrible, because (like it or not) you will be out of tune for some time.
I don't even want to imagine what that unstabily might lead to in a stage when performing with other musicians.
Let's say it also happens when you touch any of its controls... so stopping its movement after making the needed adjustements it's an unnaceptable must.
"Well when Mr. Botermans took apart Jessica's Turnkey E'Pro he found that the circuitry had indeed been modified in some way."
1) We saw rev. B printed on the circuit boards. That doesn't say exactly 'what' on the circuit boards was revised. Maybe all the Pro's after the prototype have this revision.
2) I'm quite able to handle a screwdriver and take apart the Pro myself, thank you :-)
I wonder if it could be that the Pro's produced for the British market don't have the snappiness that some Pro's produced for the American market seem to have.
I'm under the impression that not all people in this thread complaining about snappiness have a Turnkey Pro. This muddles the discussion a bit.
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Jessica
I am going to perform the modification myself, next weekend if possible. It looks fairly simple. . . . (famous last words)
I'm delighted with mine - it truly is a thing of beauty, visually as well as audibly and a lasting memorial to a wonderful man.
Kind regards,
Simon
I was going to lacquer the back to cover it, and probably I will substitute it with my webpage's logo. ;)
I am hoping to receive it in 3 days or so... I can't wait...
BTW, I have published today at Theremin Hispano an article about how to refinish it by Peter Pringle, taken directly from his message at levnet and translated with his permission.
In some time I want to make something similar with mine, maybe I will refinish it darker (chocolate brown) or , why not? violet as suggested by him ;)
My EPro has arrived today too soon...so I was not at home. I hope to have it tomorrow if I am lucky.
:(
BTW, those EPros from Turnkey, do they have Pamelia's DVD included too?
Considering case or the bag. Can't decide - perhaps it might fit a flight case for another device like a mixer or rack?
Moog postage is always so much - why is that?
Anyway Wilco at Tele Touch was most helpful and can supply the case or bag.
http://www.theremin.nl/productintro.php?en
back to my EPro - bounce bounce ! never thought I;d ever own one.
I have also been bouncing around my EPro - finally got it yesterday!!
Great sounding basses! I love this instrument.
I also am considering to ask Moog for a sticker - maybe for the top.
Now , I go back to mi EPRO DVD :)
This UK model has no logo at all, as you know, but a fine sticker from Moog themselves would be
great for the top.
Who do you think I should ask at Moog for it? I was supposed to receive an sticker with my warranty signed for the Standard from N.C. ... It was in November last year and I am still waiting for it, after sending about 2 or 3 emails to them... They told me in one occasion they were busy...
The case is sealed with Moog's logo, and the DVD has "moog" on it, but the rest of it has no brand at all.
The foam that comes with it is, of course, a hight density one. It is supposed to be used with the official bag - maybe too expensive 100 euro for a simple bag without foam, you have to reuse the one that comes with the unit. (!)
I will try to search for a smaller hard trolley suitcase and I will buy high density foam myself and re-distribute it to be into it. Cheaper and more convenient than buying a official one.
To buy a EPro does not mean you have lots of money to waste.
In case this is true of others in this batch I found that to tighten it it needs a very small Imperial (rather than metric) allen key.
I found the octave pot could do with a tighten too.